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Geoff Fischer's avatar

On reflection, the idea that Christ is physically present in the world in the form of the church is quite compatible with belief in transubstantiation in the context of the mass. But if Christ is physically present in some other form that is outside the sacraments and rituals of the church (as these miracles imply) then the whole notion of the church as the body of Christ is brought into question - or so it seems to me. Perhaps that explains why the church is not eager to embrace these reported miracles.

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Winston Moreton's avatar

Sure, I believe in miracles and what I called the Force before Spielberg's Star Wars. Just last Friday I came out of a motel around 8am in a town not far from PN thinking I wonder how I will contact a former school friend, a local, I've not seen for many years and there he was on the footpath about to cross the road busy on some chore involving visits to kaumatua.

I've said before, on here I think, that when spectators are of one mind screaming "Go" to the home team winger the passes stick, tacklers run into each other and the final bounce over the try-line is impossibly perfect. The Force is in a big crowd. Now we have billions who know the name Trump as millions knew the name Hitler and the residue power that name still invokes a century later.

At the Grotto at Lourdes in the summer of 1973 I filled an empty but leaky soft drink bottle with the holy spring water. Discarded wheelchairs and crutches abounded. I gifted the water saved to a believer for his local Parish Priest.

Personally, I do not think anyone will ever disprove Matthew and Mark's record of the miracle expansion of loaves and fishes at Galilea even though there have been attempts to do so.

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