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Geoff Fischer's avatar

"The real problem is the ongoing challenge to the core idea that Parliament is the sovereign voice of the people"

Technically that is not correct. King Charles is sovereign. Parliament sits at his pleasure. If Parliament really was "the sovereign voice of the people" the tensions between Te Pati Maori and other parties would rapidly dissipate or would never have arisen.

We live in the real world where for very good reasons an increasing number of tangata motu, both Maori and Pakeha, are not happy with the constitution imposed on us by British force of arms. In such circumstances it behoves everyone, not just Maori, to tread carefully.

The Treaty Principles Bill was a reckless provocation which resulted in massive protests outside of parliament followed by the haka incident within parliament. The parliamentary majority then decided to up the ante with its proposal (not yet implemented) to ban Te Pati Maori representatives from the House for 21 days. In other words to disenfranchise 87973 TPM electors. The system already disenfranchises all those whose favored party fails to clear the 5% threshold, all those whose chosen representative refuses to pledge allegiance to King Charles, and all those who vote for a defeated constituency candidate.

None of these abuses of democratic process would be possible under a whakaminenga/rangatiratanga model of governance.

So it is natural that tangata motu may at times show scant respect for the niceties of parliamentary procedure. Should we not tolerate a few ructions in parliament if it means we avoid returning to nga pakanga in the bush?

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John Graham's avatar

a further comment - you seem (listening to n2N rn)...to be saying Parliament must rule utself, and the House must rule itself. Which is it? Presumably Parliament is sovereign, rather than the House of Representives.

Following on from my previous comment....it is hard to imagine the House being characterised by rational deliberation rather than government dominance in the near future....but Parliament acting qua Parliament can and should be better.

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